Dr. Hefer Bembenutty interviewed Dr. Bill McKeachie, a past president of the American Psychological Association, Division 15 (Educational Psychology). In the interview, Professor McKeachie revealed his experience as past president of Division 15. Professor McKeachie has been the president of the American Psychological Association (APA), the American Association of Higher Education, the American Psychological Foundation, the Division of Educational Instruction and School Psychology of the International Association of Applied Psychology, and APA's Division 2. Professor McKeachie has received eight honorary degrees, the American Psychological Foundation Gold Medal for Lifetime Contributions to Psychology, and the American Psychological Association Presidential Citation for exemplary service to the academic and scientific community. His classic book, "Teaching Tips," is now in its 13th edition. During the interview, Professor McKeachie remembered that he called his presidential address "Psychology in the Bicentennial Year." He reported that at that time, cognitive psychology had basically come in to counter behaviorism, and he argued that we are all behaviorists--not strict behaviorists in Skinnerian terms, but the difference between us and physiologists or economists or sociologists or other groups was that our dependent variable always is the behavior of people. He said that he tried to be unifying and make connections with the various theories.